I got a great conversation with Sander and Jonathan Flaum about their new book The 100-Mile Walk: A Father and Son on a Quest to Find The Essence of Leadership. They have what they call their nine P’s of leadership (People, Purpose, Passion, Performance, Persistence, Perspective, Paranoia, Principles, Practice) and we talk about a number of them.

What makes the book and this podcast so great is hearing two very different perspectives on what it means to be a leader. We talk about finding meaning, Sandy Koufax, and “how we’ll never get it right”.

mp3, 40:26, 27.8MB

Sander’s Book Picks

• Only The Paranoid Survive by Andy Grove
• Winning by Jack and Suzy Welch
• Execution by Larry Bossidy and Ram Charan

Jonathon’s Book Picks

• Sandy Koufax by Jane Leavy
• Man’s Search For Meaning by Victor Frankl
• Everyday Zen by Charlotte Joko Beck
• Places That Scare You by Pema Chodron